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#738899 - 10/31/07 09:55 PM
Re: [TR] Smith Rocks Monkey Face - West Face Aid Route 10/27/2007
[Re: gt5816v]
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Registered: 03/12/02
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niiiiice! adventure!
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#738947 - 11/01/07 07:11 AM
Re: [TR] Smith Rocks Monkey Face - West Face Aid R
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Great job boys.....super great pictures......
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#738948 - 11/01/07 07:11 AM
Re: [TR] Smith Rocks Monkey Face - West Face Aid R
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Registered: 11/13/03
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Yeah, Porter, it was a good day out. We'll see you down here when you heal up, OK?
Thanks Josh for putting the TR + pics up. For those of you who haven't climbed with him yet, he's a super solid partner. When I got to the cave we didn't have a ton of daylight left and it was really cool to have someone who had it together mentally & organization-wise to rap off a way we were both unfamiliar with.
Will, I had trouble on the jug mostly because of basic mechanical ineptitude. I haven't done a ton of jugging, and it's all been on vertical or less than vertical stuff. When you're free-hanging you really have to have it dialed, or it's extra strenuous. I got burnt out fast physically. Mentally it was taxing as well - the exposure was tremendous, and there's something about unclipping a bolt and swinging out into space, a couple of hundred feet off the deck, that started to wear on me. I was gibbering and incoherent by the time I reached the lip. But the sad thing is, now I want to go back & try it again.
I was super psyched that Josh hadn't finished off the water when I got to the cave. Thanks again for that.
So I don't usually like rapping off in the dark, etc, but watching the sun set over the mountains from the cave and then walking back along the crooked river under the stars, and then under the nearly full moon, was a cool experience. Just reminded me of what an awesome place smith is, & why it's one of my favorite spots in Oregon.
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#738959 - 11/01/07 08:21 AM
Re: [TR] Smith Rocks Monkey Face - West Face Aid Route 10/27/2007
[Re: gt5816v]
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Registered: 04/29/02
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Well done Josh and Dan  . Enjoyed the TR immensely. Nice that your GF was willing to hang out and take pictures, she got some really nice shots of you guys. WOW, it’s been almost 25 years since I did that climb. Reading about your adventure brought back the memories. My own experience and feelings closely matched yours. It was my first aid climb and I remember well the slow, strenuous, awkward, movement up the ladder, struggling to “be rational” about the exposure, and when it was finally all over, loving it. It also was a dawn to dark event.
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#739002 - 11/01/07 09:41 AM
Re: [TR] Smith Rocks Monkey Face - West Face Aid Route 10/27/2007
[Re: rbw1966]
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Good to know, Rob. Our one (grappling) hook was conveniently clipped to my harness back at the belay. That might have helped, though I don't think Josh has used one before & that would be an exciting spot to do your first hook moves.
Tim, that would be a wild first aid climb! 25 years ago, what, were you like 12 or something?
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#739016 - 11/01/07 10:06 AM
Re: [TR] Smith Rocks Monkey Face - West Face Aid Route 10/27/2007
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Registered: 06/04/07
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That was also my first aid climb. I got the overhanging bolt pitch, and from what I remember there were a lot of OLD star head nails and mystery metal hangers. I still have one of them that fell out in my hand. Nice to see it's been rebolted.
We had a stick clip, which helped immensely. But we also did it late in the year (December I think) and got to the cave after dark. We did the Bohn St. escape as well. As I was reading your TR I was wondering if you would go that way!
The Backbone looks sick from that route!
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#739093 - 11/01/07 12:07 PM
Re: [TR] Smith Rocks Monkey Face - West Face Aid Route 10/27/2007
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Nice TR & photos. It's a fun, very exposed route. Supposedly it's easy to rap down the North Face but never tried that. Clipping that reachy bolt 1st time around took some thinking; 2nd time had a cheater stick. I had a couple of hooks but could not find a placement for one - probably missed something? Haulbag gives a plumbline reference: 
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#739143 - 11/01/07 01:51 PM
Re: [TR] Smith Rocks Monkey Face - West Face Aid Route 10/27/2007
[Re: rbw1966]
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Registered: 12/12/06
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Thanks for the kind words everyone!
Those of you that have not climbed with Dan take the chance if you get it. He's very safe and his technical know how is impressive. I'm just learning aid climbing and am really glad to have Dan helping me out. I never doubt his judgment for a second. When you have a couple hundred feet of air under you it's nice to know the guy on the other end of the rope has you covered.
I think a stick clip and another aider would really smooth out the ripples on this climb. Heck just knowing I can actually reach that bolt makes all the difference! Like Dan I'm looking forward to doing it again now...
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#739540 - 11/02/07 12:33 PM
Re: [TR] Smith Rocks Monkey Face - West Face Aid R
[Re: billcoe]
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No offense, but it sounds like you guys need to read John Longs bigwalls book and practice closer to the ground your texas style and maybe actaully have someone show you how to jug before you get back onto overhanging aid. Camped in the back notch cave (planed bivy) in January of 1997, found a fairly new headlamp up there, please describe if you think it might be yours and I can give it back. You don't need nearly as much pro as it looks like you were packing, a couple sets of stopers, 00-1 tcus, a and a few single cams up to about 2 inches and cam hooks and 1 bat hook is all you need to sew it up. Good luck next time
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#739576 - 11/02/07 01:24 PM
Re: [TR] Smith Rocks Monkey Face - West Face Aid R
[Re: shapp]
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No offense taken, shapp, thanks for the advice on the jugging practice. You're right, the first pitch was mostly stoppers plus a couple aliens; a red & then a yellow camalot about midway. I did a few cam hook moves, that and offset nuts in a couple pin scars made it pretty easy.
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#739595 - 11/02/07 01:47 PM
Re: [TR] Smith Rocks Monkey Face - West Face Aid R
[Re: dan_forester]
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Try jugging one jug and a Gri Gri......
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#739630 - 11/02/07 02:45 PM
Re: [TR] Smith Rocks Monkey Face - West Face Aid R
[Re: kevbone]
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Nice picks!!!
It's a fun route even though it'smostly a bolt ladder. We did it in 3 pitches to the cave and hauled a small bag. I was suprised how steep the second pitch was when we cut the bags loose and they swing way out. It would be fun to do as a party of three; I want to jug the free line on the second pitch.
A couple of you have mentioned cam hooks. Is the rock as smith hard enough for cam hooks? Anyone ever blow out a placement with one at smith? I know they are a no no in zion but that place is a bit softer than smith. Just a thought.
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#739724 - 11/02/07 10:04 PM
Re: [TR] Smith Rocks Monkey Face - West Face Aid R
[Re: gt5816v]
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Those of you that have not climbed with Dan take the chance if you get it. He's very safe and his technical know how is impressive. And if you happen to get snowed in for some bizarre reason, I can personally vouch that Dan is a world-class snow cave digger. Actually seems to enjoy it...
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#739738 - 11/03/07 12:41 AM
Re: [TR] Smith Rocks Monkey Face - West Face Aid R
[Re: gslater]
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great pics! try the east face or nw passage for more sustained and a tad harder clean aid. mabey a little more rack than the west and a few more hooks and youll be set.
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#740187 - 11/05/07 11:41 PM
Re: [TR] Smith Rocks Monkey Face - West Face Aid R
[Re: corvallisclimb]
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Registered: 12/14/06
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Thanks for the great TR Joshua. Looks like you guys had a great day out. Happy Birthday Dan!
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#743280 - 11/14/07 09:33 AM
Re: [TR] Smith Rocks Monkey Face - West Face Aid Route 10/27/2007
[Re: rbw1966]
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Registered: 03/14/05
Posts: 82
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Loc: Portland
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Guys,
Very nice TR and esp. nice photos. I climbed this last year.
For anyone thinking of this route . . . - bring med. Leeper cam hooks - bring 2 headlamps, esp during shorter days - learn to jug and clean elsewhere before you get on a route this steep. Have your chosen ascending system dialed before geting on any "real" route.
Go get em!
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