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#814274 - 07/08/08 10:57 AM Avoiding hatred -- should I, and how?
rob Offline
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Recently I've gotten myself in a situation in which someone who was once close to me has done and continues to do so many hurtful things to me and my children that I find it hard not to hate them. I was raised thinking that hatred is bad (mmm kay?), so it's sort of a natural reaction for me to try not to. But it's hard, when these feelings feel so natural. I've never really felt like this before about someone, so it's kind of new to me.

Couple of questions: What's so bad about hating someone, anyway? Why should I be trying so hard not to? Isn't it a natural emotion just like everything else? Is it even possible to not feel an emotion that you're feeling? It's all just chemicals, anyway.

And, what in the world do you do to not hate someone? Trying to not hate someone is like trying to not love someone.
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#814282 - 07/08/08 11:10 AM Re: Avoiding hatred -- should I, and how? [Re: rob]
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#814290 - 07/08/08 11:28 AM Re: Avoiding hatred -- should I, and how? [Re: Jake Porter]
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do I need bed peace before hair peace, or is it the other way around?
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#814291 - 07/08/08 11:29 AM Re: Avoiding hatred -- should I, and how? [Re: rob]
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#814294 - 07/08/08 11:33 AM Re: Avoiding hatred -- should I, and how? [Re: Jake Porter]
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but I want money
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#814295 - 07/08/08 11:33 AM Re: Avoiding hatred -- should I, and how? [Re: rob]
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 Originally Posted By: rob
Recently I've gotten myself in a situation in which someone who was once close to me has done and continues to do so many hurtful things to me and my children that I find it hard not to hate them. I was raised thinking that hatred is bad (mmm kay?), so it's sort of a natural reaction for me to try not to. But it's hard, when these feelings feel so natural. I've never really felt like this before about someone, so it's kind of new to me.

Couple of questions: What's so bad about hating someone, anyway? Why should I be trying so hard not to? Isn't it a natural emotion just like everything else? Is it even possible to not feel an emotion that you're feeling? It's all just chemicals, anyway.

And, what in the world do you do to not hate someone? Trying to not hate someone is like trying to not love someone.


Rob - I think you ultimately need to get yourself to a place where you realize that not hating this person is in YOUR (and your kids) best interest - your decision not to hate this person is not for this person's benefit. Odds are that your kids are already being hurt by this persons actions, and to the extent that a hateful mindset drives actions/attitudes of anger in your life, they are the recipients of more collateral damage. Also, I've found that for me, harboring resentment poisons my own quality of life in other spheres. Choosing not to hate is not about letting a person off the hook who deserves to be treated poorly based on their actions/attitudes. Rather, it's being mature enough to recognize that returning hate with hate does more damage to you and your kids than simply letting go.

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#814298 - 07/08/08 11:39 AM Re: Avoiding hatred -- should I, and how? [Re: ericb]
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also learning to appreciate folly, both in your lives and in the lives of others. for instance, if someone is being a dick, say "i appreciate that you have to be a dick in order to feel good about yourself". this sounds like a pit of sorrow, but it actually is a liberating perspective. you have to realize that you can't solve all the worlds issues (but if you can, please start with mine first)
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#814316 - 07/08/08 12:15 PM Re: Avoiding hatred -- should I, and how? [Re: Jake Porter]
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Hating rots the soul. Then, when you go to uncage it, it really reeks.
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#814338 - 07/08/08 12:38 PM Re: Avoiding hatred -- should I, and how? [Re: rob]
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#814402 - 07/08/08 01:27 PM Re: Avoiding hatred -- should I, and how? [Re: KaskadskyjKozak]
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#814428 - 07/08/08 01:40 PM Re: Avoiding hatred -- should I, and how? [Re: G-spotter]
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just register as a republican and let the hate flow my brother. the promise keepers will protect you and your children.
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#814434 - 07/08/08 01:46 PM Re: Avoiding hatred -- should I, and how? [Re: Winter]
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could I turn it into a lucrative talk radio career?

Don't I have to stop having sex if I register as a republican?
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#814439 - 07/08/08 01:49 PM Re: Avoiding hatred -- should I, and how? [Re: rob]
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yes, that's why they can reach the hate stage. maybe you need to be gettting laid even more often to solve this problem
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#814451 - 07/08/08 01:55 PM Re: Avoiding hatred -- should I, and how? [Re: minx]
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I wonder if I could combine climbing and sex? Has anybody ever explored this? Someone should make a video.
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#814454 - 07/08/08 01:58 PM Re: Avoiding hatred -- should I, and how? [Re: rob]
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yes i think the combo would help relieve the angst you're feeling. please submit a home video and TR
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#814462 - 07/08/08 02:02 PM Re: Avoiding hatred -- should I, and how? [Re: minx]
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yes i think the combo would help relieve the angst you're feeling. please submit a home video and TR


you want a video of rob and tvash bumpin' uglies?
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#814468 - 07/08/08 02:05 PM Re: Avoiding hatred -- should I, and how? [Re: KaskadskyjKozak]
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 Originally Posted By: KaskadskyjKozak
 Originally Posted By: minx
yes i think the combo would help relieve the angst you're feeling. please submit a home video and TR


you want a video of rob and tvash bumpin' uglies?


whatever, my shit ain't ugly. I'm well trimmed.
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#814472 - 07/08/08 02:07 PM Re: Avoiding hatred -- should I, and how? [Re: rob]
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 Originally Posted By: rob

Don't I have to stop having sex if I register as a republican?


Only with women

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#814482 - 07/08/08 02:11 PM Re: Avoiding hatred -- should I, and how? [Re: rob]
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 Originally Posted By: rob
I wonder if I could combine climbing and sex? Has anybody ever explored this? Someone should make a video.


clucker
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#814489 - 07/08/08 02:16 PM Re: Avoiding hatred -- should I, and how? [Re: G-spotter]
KaskadskyjKozak Offline
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 Originally Posted By: G-spotter
 Originally Posted By: rob
I wonder if I could combine climbing and sex? Has anybody ever explored this? Someone should make a video.


clucker


wow, glad you cleared that up for us... nobody figured out that reference!
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#814531 - 07/08/08 02:39 PM Re: Avoiding hatred -- should I, and how? [Re: ericb]
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 Originally Posted By: ericb
 Originally Posted By: rob

Don't I have to stop having sex if I register as a republican?


Only with women


unless they're hookers
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#814603 - 07/08/08 04:03 PM Re: Avoiding hatred -- should I, and how? [Re: minx]
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Instead of hate, you should pity this fellow...clearly he got messed up somewhere along the way.
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#814608 - 07/08/08 04:15 PM Re: Avoiding hatred -- should I, and how? [Re: bstach]
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#814968 - 07/09/08 10:50 AM Re: Avoiding hatred -- should I, and how? [Re: KaskadskyjKozak]
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Hating takes too much effort. If you really hate something/someone, you have to make it a point to do things to destroy that person/thing; mean, spiteful things like shitting in mailboxes and killing pets.

I don't think you have it in you.

You are probably having feelings of "strong dislike" and confusing them for hate.
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#814969 - 07/09/08 10:51 AM Re: Avoiding hatred -- should I, and how? [Re: fenderfour]
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p.s. that metallica song sucks ass.
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